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When, as a child, were you overwhelmed by reality? What most decisively shaped your imagination as you grew up? Who were the teachers in your life whose love of their subject inspired you? In this episode, David sits down with Rev. Hayden Butler to discuss how we never stop growing up and how our longing for more, our ache to push past the walls of our world, is a fundamentally Christian impulse to love what is good, what is true, and what is beautiful.